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Feb 21 2010

Windows Live Writer 2010 – Just Minor Updates


i5305zjc thumb Windows Live Writer 2010 – Just Minor UpdatesWith Windows Live Writer 2010 looking like it’s going to be a few more months away from release, it’s looking unimpressive right now.

Windows Live Writer is the best blogging tool out there, but it’s development is so slow; it’s depressing. It’s no wonder Internet Explorer is taking such a beating.

If you were paying attention to the Twitter world this evening you’ll see that some more screenshots of Windows Live Writer 2010 were published and besides the change in the GUI, not much has changed, and there’s no details from the developers to say different.

Everything is hush right now.

That’s what I think is so awesome about open source; they keep you posted. They tell you what’s going on, there are true BETA releases to test with. Microsoft did this so well with Windows 7, but now it’s like this lost art.

So what are they offering? What’s new and different in the new version?

All we have are a few screenshots…

This is a side by side comparison to Windows Live Writer 2009 and 2010:

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Obviously the GUI is different, but what else has changed? Not much. The truth is that people liked the drafts and the recent posts- the plug-ins needed to be better organized.

  • The size/styles of the font can be changed in the toolbar – nice, but not much else.

And what about the plug-ins?

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      From the Ribbon toolbar [which I dislike], has the INSERT option and this is where the plug-ins and options will be kept. It’s irritating because it just looks like all this work, with everyone waiting for 14 months already for an update to this popular blogging tool and this is the result… a change to the GUI; making it look more like Microsoft Office.
      And what’s more, Windows Live Writer 2010, from the formatting bar, still doesn’t have an indention option; to indent paragraphs of information. And I’m going to keep arguing this because a BLOCKQUOTE is NOT an INDENTION, and the PROBLEM with BLOCKQUOTEs is that it’s treated different with each Theme. Moving between themes is not fun if the information is not handled generically. The CORRECT way to handle this is via a PARAGRAPH margin.

    Does Windows Live Writer 2010, to you, look like a huge improvement over the last version?

    • This should've been Open Sourced. (44%, 7 Votes)
    • No. (31%, 5 Votes)
    • Yes. (25%, 4 Votes)

    Total Voters: 16

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      An INDENTION of text in a WordPress blog is a standard feature in the options, when editing online. Why Windows Live Writer 2010 can’t have this-
      Did they address it or fix it.. we don’t know. It can’t be explained…
      So, Windows Live Writer went ‘LIVE’ in January 2009. In 14 months, and probably more by the time they release it, HOW much progress is Microsoft going to have made on this application?
      …we don’t know, but right now– it ain’t much.

      Thanks,
      L. Henry Jr.
      http://www.lehsys.com



      • Pedro

        Thanks for your interesting information on WLW. BTW, do you know of any extension for launching it directly from Google Chrome? This is the only thing I miss from my switch from Firefox…

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/lehenryjr lehenryjr

          There's no Chrome plug-in for BLOGTHIS for Windows Live WritWindowsLive Writer. In fact the Windows Live Writer team still doesn't supportthe plug-in that's out there. Windows Live Writer is a great program,but it's not supported nearly enough.Have a nice day!Thanks,L. Henry Jr.http://www.lehsys.com

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Viki Viki

        If MS open sourced this project, it can be made so much better, much faster.

        MS has developed an excellent product for which a lot of bloggers thank them daily. They can capitalize on this by implementing feature enhancements and further boost their goodwill with the blogging community.

        I wouldn't really like WLW to be more like Office products. I like the fact that it has its own identity, and MS would be wise to keep it that way. Just my 2 cents.

        • http://www.LEHSYS.com lehenryjr

          I agree. I don't think Microsoft realizes at this point, how popular Windows Live Writer really is, and so they've not followed up with it. It's been almost 2yrs since the last release and if this was placed in the hands of the open source community, or Mozilla and or Google; where would Windows Live Writer be?

          The word Microsoft forces a vision of lethargic progress.

          Until next time,
          LEHenryJr
          LEHSYS.com

      • aaronjbregel

        I am confused on how you would want indentation to work for someone on Blogger or typepad or really any blog server other than WordPress. Unlike Blockquote which is an HTML tag, indentation is a CSS style and is generally defined in a blog's theme. There is no HTML tag for indentation. Would you want Live Writer to start to add CSS to your blog post that is not part of your theme? I would not for my blogs. The beauty of Live Writer today is that it does not mess with my CSS.

        Are you asking that Writer just have a button that does an indentation base off of your theme defenition when the blog is WordPress?

        I agree that Blockquote and indentation are two different things. When I want a block quote I use a block quote in Writer. I would not use Blockquote to do an indentation.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/lehenryjr lehenryjr

          Arron,

          Indention of text isn't a CSS tag; it can be affected by CSS,
          but it's not controlled by CSS solely. Indention can be handled several
          ways. And the issue is that there are so many themes that depending on
          is you use blockquote [Windows Live Writer], P or DIV tags- depends on
          how the theme treats those.

          Example, the base editor for WordPress has indention in the editor
          toolbar; if you check the HTML source- they're using P tags to
          accomplish this. Windows Live Writer doesn't support this… WHY?!

          I'm not asking Windows Live Writer to affect the CSS of the site. I'd
          like Windows Live Writer to establish the proper HTML code like the
          base function of the blog [e.g. WordPress]… Just write the HTML code.

          A good example, would be Dreamweaver or FrontPage; creating WYSIWYG
          HTML code and presentation.

          I hope I've provide a good enough example.

          I appreciate it…

          Until next time,

          LEHenryJr

          LEHSYS.com

          • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/aaronjbregel aaronjbregel

            Go it. You would like a CSS attribute to be applied to the

            tag
            Wordpress does the following for an indent:
            "<p style="padding-left: 30px">"
            I wonder what Writer would do if the CSS for the style was not defined and you clicked on an indent button.

            • http://lehsys.com lehenryjr

              Considering it's a P tag, it'll treat it as any other part of the P tag section.
              The only thing here is the padding. What WLW doesn't offer is the option to indent, but indent can be done with DIV Tag as well; and there should a option to indent with DIV or P. The point is, where is the full featured editor? Where's the matching features of WLW and WP?

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